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		<title>By: vikrant</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dint see this movie becoz 1stly i dont think so that there is nothing spl abt the story where casting is concern is good ang BIGb allways done well what he does. about other character i dont know so i think thums very very down. thank you</description>
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		<title>By: meetu</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>meetu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warning! Spoilers in this comment!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hey morph,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Good to see you here again!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Granted a character driven drama to you could be a thriller to me. But what when the makers think it is a "edge-of-the-seat dramatic action thriller". And I do not quote from some gossip column, it is right from the &lt;A HREF="http://www.eklavyatheroyalguard.com/" REL="nofollow"&gt;official website&lt;/A&gt;. Click on "THE STORY" link, it is the first line of the last paragraph.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I thought the point of the movie was to narrate a story which was supposed to be a thriller. And did not deliver. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It was certainly wanting to be a thriller. Otherwise why would they  not show Prince Harshawardhan approaching Rana Jayawardhan? Also, why would the fact that Prince Harshawardhan was behind it all, shown in pieces, first to Rajjo and then Rana Jayawardhan yelling at Eklavya in the train scene.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Let's continue the discussion...</description>
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<p>Hey morph,</p>
<p>Good to see you here again!</p>
<p>Granted a character driven drama to you could be a thriller to me. But what when the makers think it is a &#8220;edge-of-the-seat dramatic action thriller&#8221;. And I do not quote from some gossip column, it is right from the <a HREF="http://www.eklavyatheroyalguard.com/" REL="nofollow">official website</a>. Click on &#8220;THE STORY&#8221; link, it is the first line of the last paragraph.</p>
<p>I thought the point of the movie was to narrate a story which was supposed to be a thriller. And did not deliver. </p>
<p>It was certainly wanting to be a thriller. Otherwise why would they  not show Prince Harshawardhan approaching Rana Jayawardhan? Also, why would the fact that Prince Harshawardhan was behind it all, shown in pieces, first to Rajjo and then Rana Jayawardhan yelling at Eklavya in the train scene.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s continue the discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: morph</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-196</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont understand how ekalavya can be judged as an thriller? it was basically a shakesperean drama with some thrilling elements thrown in . &lt;BR/&gt;Nor was it an attempt at a murder mystery , you knew who the killer almost 15 minutes after the murders happenned . so then it cant be accused of having a predictable climax when it wasnt even trying to surprise you in any way because all the major plot secrets were out long before the climax !!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;as you did with black friday , you just missed the point of the whole film . &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;you judged a character driven drama  as a thrilling action piece !!&lt;BR/&gt;maybe they should have mentioned the genre which movie belonged to on your ticket :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont understand how ekalavya can be judged as an thriller? it was basically a shakesperean drama with some thrilling elements thrown in . <br />Nor was it an attempt at a murder mystery , you knew who the killer almost 15 minutes after the murders happenned . so then it cant be accused of having a predictable climax when it wasnt even trying to surprise you in any way because all the major plot secrets were out long before the climax !!</p>
<p>as you did with black friday , you just missed the point of the whole film . </p>
<p>you judged a character driven drama  as a thrilling action piece !!<br />maybe they should have mentioned the genre which movie belonged to on your ticket <img src='http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: meetu</title>
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		<dc:creator>meetu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by Jay! Read your review. Pretty detailed indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Jay! Read your review. Pretty detailed indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Meetu, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I agree to certain extent with your review, there were a few splending things about the movie but pieces dont work in the movie world, its the entire impact that is important. Do visit my review :&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://jkpcblogs.blogspot.com/2007/02/eklavya-royal-farce.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Meetu, </p>
<p>I agree to certain extent with your review, there were a few splending things about the movie but pieces dont work in the movie world, its the entire impact that is important. Do visit my review :</p>
<p><a href="http://jkpcblogs.blogspot.com/2007/02/eklavya-royal-farce.html" rel="nofollow">http://jkpcblogs.blogspot.com/2007/02/eklavya-royal-farce.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: meetu</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>meetu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi received your e-mail and responded. Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: meetu</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>meetu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi anonymous,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I can "sit back and enjoy" only in movies that are obvious comedies. The rest - very difficult for me to do.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Also, if I sit back and enjoy how can I answer questions like, "if its not a thriller in the first place then how does it fail as a thriller?" :-)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yep! I usually do "search" for things that I don't know the right word for, didn't do it this time and was found!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Keep the comments coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi anonymous,</p>
<p>I can &#8220;sit back and enjoy&#8221; only in movies that are obvious comedies. The rest - very difficult for me to do.</p>
<p>Also, if I sit back and enjoy how can I answer questions like, &#8220;if its not a thriller in the first place then how does it fail as a thriller?&#8221; <img src='http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yep! I usually do &#8220;search&#8221; for things that I don&#8217;t know the right word for, didn&#8217;t do it this time and was found!</p>
<p>Keep the comments coming!</p>
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		<title>By: meetu</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>meetu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ricky,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Inconsistencies is something that I would hate to have in my reviews. Could you please take the time to point out what you found inconsistent. Thanks!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don't mind watching the second half of Baabul for Amitabh Bachchan's acting (and Rani Mukherjee's for that matter). Willing to ignore the other stuff, that as you rightly pointed out, could lead to a death by torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ricky,</p>
<p>Inconsistencies is something that I would hate to have in my reviews. Could you please take the time to point out what you found inconsistent. Thanks!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind watching the second half of Baabul for Amitabh Bachchan&#8217;s acting (and Rani Mukherjee&#8217;s for that matter). Willing to ignore the other stuff, that as you rightly pointed out, could lead to a death by torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Meetu. I said "don't get me wrong" due to the fact that people are sensitive in the blogosphere. Who knows who gets pissed off with what. (I wonder if Sakshi's mail to you has anything to do with the use of "To each its own". Hehe)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Good you took things in the right spirit. Don't think a movie thru... just sit back and enjoy it for what its worth - timepass!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For learning movie terms, just google away..I'm sure you'll find stuff. Thanks for taking time off to reply to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Meetu. I said &#8220;don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8221; due to the fact that people are sensitive in the blogosphere. Who knows who gets pissed off with what. (I wonder if Sakshi&#8217;s mail to you has anything to do with the use of &#8220;To each its own&#8221;. Hehe)</p>
<p>Good you took things in the right spirit. Don&#8217;t think a movie thru&#8230; just sit back and enjoy it for what its worth - timepass!</p>
<p>For learning movie terms, just google away..I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll find stuff. Thanks for taking time off to reply to me.</p>
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		<title>By: meetu</title>
		<link>http://withoutgivingthemovieaway.com/main/review-eklavya/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>meetu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!!!WARNING: This comment has spoilers!!!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hi Anonymous,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for being a part of my readership! I really appreciate the time and effort you have spent in listing these questions for me. Here are my point-wise answers: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1. Eklavya was certainly stylish and it was an attempt at a thriller. I chose the word thriller because it felt the audience was being given one piece of information at a time, which is typical of a  thriller. I say attempt, because for each piece of information a hint was given that gave too much away. So, when the actual information was said out loud, it was too late.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Concrete example: Piece of information - Harshawardhan is Eklavya's son. The audience is supposed to know this only when it is disclosed in the letter from Rani to her son. The way Jayawardhan keeps saying, "sirf tumhaara hi naam le rahi thi" mostly looking at Eklavya, it is pretty clear, that Harshawardhan is going to turn out to be Eklavya's son.&lt;BR/&gt;Similarly it was obvious that Harshawardhan was going to get involved in killing Jayawardhan given the fact that the latter killed his mother and Jayawardhan is not his father.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, it was slow, but that did not bother me. However, I do think it would have worked better if instead of repeating some things, they would have spent more time on Rana Jyotiwardhan, Udaywardhan, Rajjo, and Nandini's characters (in that order). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2 and 3. Like I said, it is an attempted thriller because of the way in which things were disclosed to the audience. I felt there were no twists in the plot because, they did not come with a bang, you knew what to expect. Aren't murder mysteries supposed to be thrillers?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;4. Oops! I am caught red-handed! I think except for the story everything else involved in movie-making is very technical. Sorry didn't name all of them in here, just wanted to name a few that were in mind when I left the theater. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think story is the most important part of the movie but is not technical in nature. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;5. I apologize. I meant the close-ups, use of wide-angle lens, the aerial shots. This was purely my inability to express myself and lack of appropriate vocabulary. Can you tell me or refer me to some place that can give me the exact words to describe these things?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;6. A well-shot movie for sure. Tried to thrill, but could not do so, therefore failed as a thriller as a result of which it failed as a movie. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;7. No-no..."na khoon baha, na koi dard" was used appropriately. Not the sonnet either. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It was the sanskrit shloka which was then explained in hindi, something to the effect "dharma wohi hai jo mati ko sach lage, jo buddhi ko sach lage, jo dil/man ko sach lage, jo aatma ko sach lage". It was repeated thrice - each time first in sanskrit and in four different ways in hindi.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;8. Good! &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;9. When I said "characteristics of Amitabh Bachchanâ€™s character are repeated till you learn them by heart". I meant the fact that he could not see but could hear very well - this fact was hammered on to the audience too many times.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I had a problem with the use of the word, "dharm" and "adharm" too many times. We get the point. Why do you need to keep saying, "ye mera dharm hai", like we will forget what was said 20 minutes ago. And then he lets go off his "dharma" in the end anyway.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;10. The father-son scene was alright. I had a problem with the whole village scene in the end. Which "pooja" is on in the last scene? What is so important about it that the whole village is attending it even though it is being performed by a chauffer's daughter (or were we supposed to assume that Rajjo is now the queen?)? Why are the villagers showing Rajjo papers concerning their land? Do they know Harshawardhan has killed her dad and she was considering not being with him anymore?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Pannalal coming and doing the whole, "bahut bura hua" thing. Especially when the suicide note was already announced when Eklavya tells him what he thought was the truth about Rana Jayawardhan's death. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;11. Yes, predictably silly.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;12. I liked the climaxes of Parainda and 1942 A love story better. Eklavya's ending was too lame. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;13. Yes, the performances certainly rose above the screenplay. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;14. I would take off 15-20 seconds from each scene, take away all the repetitious dialogues (whether they are in one language or two) E.g. "taiyyari hai meri *pause* I am ready". &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Why would I get you wrong? I sincerely appreciate the effort you have taken to understand my review. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;cheers!</description>
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<p>Hi Anonymous,</p>
<p>Thanks for being a part of my readership! I really appreciate the time and effort you have spent in listing these questions for me. Here are my point-wise answers: </p>
<p>1. Eklavya was certainly stylish and it was an attempt at a thriller. I chose the word thriller because it felt the audience was being given one piece of information at a time, which is typical of a  thriller. I say attempt, because for each piece of information a hint was given that gave too much away. So, when the actual information was said out loud, it was too late.</p>
<p>Concrete example: Piece of information - Harshawardhan is Eklavya&#8217;s son. The audience is supposed to know this only when it is disclosed in the letter from Rani to her son. The way Jayawardhan keeps saying, &#8220;sirf tumhaara hi naam le rahi thi&#8221; mostly looking at Eklavya, it is pretty clear, that Harshawardhan is going to turn out to be Eklavya&#8217;s son.<br />Similarly it was obvious that Harshawardhan was going to get involved in killing Jayawardhan given the fact that the latter killed his mother and Jayawardhan is not his father.</p>
<p>Yes, it was slow, but that did not bother me. However, I do think it would have worked better if instead of repeating some things, they would have spent more time on Rana Jyotiwardhan, Udaywardhan, Rajjo, and Nandini&#8217;s characters (in that order). </p>
<p>2 and 3. Like I said, it is an attempted thriller because of the way in which things were disclosed to the audience. I felt there were no twists in the plot because, they did not come with a bang, you knew what to expect. Aren&#8217;t murder mysteries supposed to be thrillers?</p>
<p>4. Oops! I am caught red-handed! I think except for the story everything else involved in movie-making is very technical. Sorry didn&#8217;t name all of them in here, just wanted to name a few that were in mind when I left the theater. </p>
<p>I think story is the most important part of the movie but is not technical in nature. </p>
<p>5. I apologize. I meant the close-ups, use of wide-angle lens, the aerial shots. This was purely my inability to express myself and lack of appropriate vocabulary. Can you tell me or refer me to some place that can give me the exact words to describe these things?</p>
<p>6. A well-shot movie for sure. Tried to thrill, but could not do so, therefore failed as a thriller as a result of which it failed as a movie. </p>
<p>7. No-no&#8230;&#8221;na khoon baha, na koi dard&#8221; was used appropriately. Not the sonnet either. </p>
<p>It was the sanskrit shloka which was then explained in hindi, something to the effect &#8220;dharma wohi hai jo mati ko sach lage, jo buddhi ko sach lage, jo dil/man ko sach lage, jo aatma ko sach lage&#8221;. It was repeated thrice - each time first in sanskrit and in four different ways in hindi.</p>
<p>8. Good! </p>
<p>9. When I said &#8220;characteristics of Amitabh Bachchanâ€™s character are repeated till you learn them by heart&#8221;. I meant the fact that he could not see but could hear very well - this fact was hammered on to the audience too many times.</p>
<p>I had a problem with the use of the word, &#8220;dharm&#8221; and &#8220;adharm&#8221; too many times. We get the point. Why do you need to keep saying, &#8220;ye mera dharm hai&#8221;, like we will forget what was said 20 minutes ago. And then he lets go off his &#8220;dharma&#8221; in the end anyway.</p>
<p>10. The father-son scene was alright. I had a problem with the whole village scene in the end. Which &#8220;pooja&#8221; is on in the last scene? What is so important about it that the whole village is attending it even though it is being performed by a chauffer&#8217;s daughter (or were we supposed to assume that Rajjo is now the queen?)? Why are the villagers showing Rajjo papers concerning their land? Do they know Harshawardhan has killed her dad and she was considering not being with him anymore?</p>
<p>Pannalal coming and doing the whole, &#8220;bahut bura hua&#8221; thing. Especially when the suicide note was already announced when Eklavya tells him what he thought was the truth about Rana Jayawardhan&#8217;s death. </p>
<p>11. Yes, predictably silly.</p>
<p>12. I liked the climaxes of Parainda and 1942 A love story better. Eklavya&#8217;s ending was too lame. </p>
<p>13. Yes, the performances certainly rose above the screenplay. </p>
<p>14. I would take off 15-20 seconds from each scene, take away all the repetitious dialogues (whether they are in one language or two) E.g. &#8220;taiyyari hai meri *pause* I am ready&#8221;. </p>
<p>Why would I get you wrong? I sincerely appreciate the effort you have taken to understand my review. </p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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